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	<description>A general distrust of strong metaphysical claims in mathematics and philosophy.</description>
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		<title>By: Theorems from Biology &#171; Antimeta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theorems from Biology &#171; Antimeta</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting. Both this and the physical argument you suggest in your&lt;a href=&quot;http://yetanothersheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-reasonable-effectiveness-of.html#comment-2795096065596396830&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reply to Michael&lt;/a&gt; worry me a bit.

Both arguments end in correct conclusions, and both arguments hide a lot of facts (empirical, mathematical) that might render one of their premises false. It&#039;s this possibility that we want to avoid. It&#039;s easy to generate wrong arguments for correct conclusions -- and such arguments are completely uninformative.

What I would urge is plenty of caution with non-mathematical arguments for mathematical conclusions. I think that in many cases they &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; lead to new insight, and in some cases they do. But my suspicion is this: these non-mathematical tricks are instructive only insofar as they lead to &lt;em&gt;good&lt;/em&gt; arguments.

For a similar discussion: a &lt;a href=&quot;http://soulphysics.blogspot.com/2008/05/4-line-proof-of-isoperimetric-theorem.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;biological proof&quot;&lt;/a&gt; of the isoperimetric theorem in 3D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting. Both this and the physical argument you suggest in your<a href="http://yetanothersheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-reasonable-effectiveness-of.html#comment-2795096065596396830" rel="nofollow">reply to Michael</a> worry me a bit.</p>
<p>Both arguments end in correct conclusions, and both arguments hide a lot of facts (empirical, mathematical) that might render one of their premises false. It&#8217;s this possibility that we want to avoid. It&#8217;s easy to generate wrong arguments for correct conclusions &#8212; and such arguments are completely uninformative.</p>
<p>What I would urge is plenty of caution with non-mathematical arguments for mathematical conclusions. I think that in many cases they <em>can</em> lead to new insight, and in some cases they do. But my suspicion is this: these non-mathematical tricks are instructive only insofar as they lead to <em>good</em> arguments.</p>
<p>For a similar discussion: a <a href="http://soulphysics.blogspot.com/2008/05/4-line-proof-of-isoperimetric-theorem.html" rel="nofollow">&#8220;biological proof&#8221;</a> of the isoperimetric theorem in 3D.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Greineckerer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Greineckerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 15:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you assume the existence of a present value, you are allready assuming that your series converges. Given that, there is a very easy way to find a expression for the infinite sum. The details are &lt;a href=&quot;http://yetanothersheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-reasonable-effectiveness-of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you assume the existence of a present value, you are allready assuming that your series converges. Given that, there is a very easy way to find a expression for the infinite sum. The details are <a href="http://yetanothersheep.blogspot.com/2008/05/on-reasonable-effectiveness-of.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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